|
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 26, 2014
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on March 27, 2014
Trying to do my best Rex Holman impersonation by voting via an objective eye...
Obviously, all nominees have their strengths, but what separates one for on the rest?
The homer choice is Logan (and that is who I went with) but D.T. was undefeated and rolled - scratch that. Steamrolled - the competition. Am I correct in stating that Ed Ruth has the same line as Logan? 3xer, one loss on the year, avenged said loss in semis???
Thoughts against D.T.??? I mean other than he's not OUR GUY, Logan?????
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Nicholas Sestito added to this discussion on March 27, 2014
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Steve Lester added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
I voted for David. Had to.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Nicholas Sestito added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
According to the website, the Hodge is to be awarded on the following criteria.
1.) Record - David Taylor (39-0) vs. Logan Stieber (35-1)
Winner - David Taylor
2.) Number of Pins - David Taylor (NCAA Stats say 15 pins, WIN article says 19 pins) vs. Logan Stieber (NCAA stats did not have a number, WIN article says 12 pins)
Winner - David Taylor
3.) Dominance - David Taylor (5.0909 average team points/match) vs. Logan Stieber (4.6207 team points/match)
Winner - David Taylor
4.) Quality of Competition - I can't speak well to the competition, but I believe 141 was more of a challenge than 165.
Winner - Logan Stieber
5.) Past Credentials - David Taylor (3 years of competition, 3 time NCAA finalist, 1 time champ) vs. Logan Stieber (2 years of competition, 2 time NCAA finalist, 2 time champ)
Winner - Logan Stieber
6.) Sportsmanship/Citizenship - I haven't seen any unsportsmanlike like acts from either.
Winner - Tie
7.) Heart - You could argue Logan Stieber since he did take the loss and rebounded from that, but it seems like both show a lot of heart when they wrestle.
Winner - Tie
Hodge goes to David Taylor.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Nicholas: "The only criteria I need is what color is his singlet! Scarlet & gray (or enter Blue & White)!?!? The he gets my vote!!!" - A Majority of Fans.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Quote from Mark Niemann's post:
|
"Nicholas: "The only criteria I need is what color is his singlet! Scarlet & gray (or enter Blue & White)!?!? The he gets my vote!!!" - A Majority of Fans."
|
I don't understand "fans"
What Nicholas wrote was spot on. Although I'm not sure 141 was a significantly better weight than 165...and Caldwell was certainly a better finals opponent than Carter.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Freddy Carr added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Bucks fan here, gotta give this one to D.T.. Pretty clear.
For me it is b/c of ONE thing and that is Logan's loss. If Logan doesn't lose I think it is his. But Logan lost a match so congrats to D.T..
Hope Logan gets him a Hodge next season. Go Bucks!
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Jason L. Jackson added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Taylor should win the Hodge and Taylor will win the Hodge. I thought the winner of this poll got 1 vote, therefore, it is a way to engage fans without giving their opinion any real weight.
With all of that being said, I voted for Logan. Why? Because he's a Buckeye.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Quote from Jason L. Jackson's post:
|
"...With all of that being said, I voted for Logan. Why? Because he's a Buckeye."
|
Unbelievable.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Steve Durose added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Quote from Michael Rodriguez's post:
|
"
Quote from Mark Niemann's post:
|
"Nicholas: "The only criteria I need is what color is his singlet! Scarlet & gray (or enter Blue & White)!?!? The he gets my vote!!!" - A Majority of Fans."
|
I don't understand "fans"
What Nicholas wrote was spot on. Although I'm not sure 141 was a significantly better weight than 165...and Caldwell was certainly a better finals opponent than Carter."
|
Why was Caldwell "certainly" a better opponent than Carter?
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Quote from Michael Rodriguez's post:
|
"
Quote from Jason L. Jackson's post:
|
"...With all of that being said, I voted for Logan. Why? Because he's a Buckeye."
|
Unbelievable."
|
See my earlier post.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Caldwell was 5, 2, 3, 2 at Nationals.
Carter DNP, 5, 2.
Seems logical to say Caldwell is better.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
Quote from Steve Durose's post:
|
"...Why was Caldwell "certainly" a better opponent than Carter?"
|
Caldwell was: 5th, runner-up, 3rd, runner-up in four years in weight classes with names like Jordan Burroughs (gave him a 2-1 bout that year), Andrew Howe (beat him in the semis in 2011), Colt Sponseller (he was the 5 seed that year while Caldwell was the 3), Jarrod King, Nick Amuchastegui, Ryan Morningstar, Kyle Dake, David Taylor (only guy that Taylor didn't bonus, twice), Mike Moreno, and Nick Sulzer.
Carter was DNP as a freshman (round of 12), 5th as a sophomore (upset by Steve Keith of Harvard and then blitzed through the conso bracket until he ran into Ramos), runner-up as junior...and in my opinion made the finals because Port slipped up against Henderson. Not Carter's fault. You can only wrestle the guys they put in front of you, but I think Port was probably the better guy as evidenced by his win over Retherford.
|
|
|
Discussion Topic: Vote For the Hodge
Nicholas Sestito added to this discussion on March 28, 2014
When I see quality of competition, I am combining the weight class as a whole, not just who the wrestler faced at the big dance. I don't have any numbers to support my feeling that 141 was deeper than 165, just a feeling. I'll have to look at it a bit closer when I am sitting in front of my computer. What the definition of quality of competition means for the other people selecting the Hodge winner, I have no idea.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|