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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Steve Lester added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Michael Rodriguez's post:
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"Hank...I respect you and enjoy reading your posts, but I think you handled that situation completely wrong."
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Hank already said as much, didn't he?
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Rex Holman added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Hank-
I applaud your honesty and saying in hindsight you made a mistake.
Sounds like a crappy uncle to have influencing juvenile behavior. Plus you don't know whether they collaborated in some excuse.
While we are sharing, We had a wrestler who was obviously stoned following the districts one year. A coach that I knew alerted me to the situation. We had a dad who is a juvenile detention officer, who I punted to immediately. He involved "officials" right away. Always better to involve an expert in the process. It is helpful to remember that the athlete is the one that crossed that line.
I understand a coaches desire to keep things in house, but as you commented it is not the way to go. Tressel made the wrong decision and it could cost him huge.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Rex Holman's post:
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"Hank-
I applaud your honesty and saying in hindsight you made a mistake.
Sounds like a crappy uncle to have influencing juvenile behavior. Plus you don't know whether they collaborated in some excuse.
While we are sharing, We had a wrestler who was obviously stoned following the districts one year. A coach that I knew alerted me to the situation. We had a dad who is a juvenile detention officer, who I punted to immediately. He involved "officials" right away. Always better to involve an expert in the process. It is helpful to remember that the athlete is the one that crossed that line.
I understand a coaches desire to keep things in house, but as you commented it is not the way to go. Tressel made the wrong decision and it could cost him huge."
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Rex, I agree the uncle sounds "crappy" but the father seemed a whole lot worse. So much for the father being 'religious'. Strange way to practice your faith.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Alex Creech added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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The right decision for one person could be the wrong decision for another. There are so many factors based on one's life experiences that play into making major a decision, that no two decisions are alike.
Maybe, for Hank & Tressel, those were the right decisions, maybe for Michael and Gary it was the wrong decision.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Steve Lester's post:
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Quote from Michael Rodriguez's post:
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"Hank...I respect you and enjoy reading your posts, but I think you handled that situation completely wrong."
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Hank already said as much, didn't he?"
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Good call. I went back read the post again. That last paragraph pretty much explains it. My post was redundant.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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It also repeated what was already said.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Roe Fox added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Gary Sommers's post:
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"Casey: I agree with you. I think it's likely Coach Tressel did forward the info to someone else who chose not to disclose. If so...big trouble for Ohio State."
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Hank, what makes that look even more likely is the way Smith jumped in when Tressel was trying to address that Tuesday evening. At that moment he treated Tressel like a 12-year-old."
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So you think he did comply with his contract and NCAA regs but should lose his job? Two games, a public floggin and a quarter mil aren't enough?
Got it.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Roe Fox's post:
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Quote from Gary Sommers's post:
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"Casey: I agree with you. I think it's likely Coach Tressel did forward the info to someone else who chose not to disclose. If so...big trouble for Ohio State."
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Hank, what makes that look even more likely is the way Smith jumped in when Tressel was trying to address that Tuesday evening. At that moment he treated Tressel like a 12-year-old."
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So you think he did comply with his contract and NCAA regs but should lose his job? Two games, a public floggin and a quarter mil aren't enough?
Got it."
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No Roe, making verbal statements and signing written statements saying you were unaware of any violations is not exactly complying with your contract or NCAA regulations.
Neither is knowingly playing potentially ineligible players.
Your defense of him and that really lame 'punishment' really surprises me.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Roe Fox added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Next time I need $250,000 I'll know where to go.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Roe Fox's post:
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"Next time I need $250,000 I'll know where to go."
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Next time I am in a multi-year contract currently paying me $3.5 mil/year, not to mention TV and radio deals, a shoe contract, and Lord knows what other associated ancillary income, I will be glad to give it to you.
BTW, is this 'suspension' with or without pay?
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Alex Creech added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Gary Sommers's post:
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Quote from Roe Fox's post:
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Quote from Gary Sommers's post:
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"Casey: I agree with you. I think it's likely Coach Tressel did forward the info to someone else who chose not to disclose. If so...big trouble for Ohio State."
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Hank, what makes that look even more likely is the way Smith jumped in when Tressel was trying to address that Tuesday evening. At that moment he treated Tressel like a 12-year-old."
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So you think he did comply with his contract and NCAA regs but should lose his job? Two games, a public floggin and a quarter mil aren't enough?
Got it."
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No Roe, making verbal statements and signing written statements saying you were unaware of any violations is not exactly complying with your contract or NCAA regulations.
Neither is knowingly playing potentially ineligible players.
Your defense of him and that really lame 'punishment' really surprises me."
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"Neither is knowingly playing potentially ineligible players."
Are you listening to yourself? So all it takes to get players suspended is to have a lawyer (or hell, anyone) email the head coach and say they "may" have players who are breaking NCAA regulations. Man, I'm glad you aren't in charge of anything. Maybe you should move to a country that is more inline with your viewpoints, like Iran or North Korea.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Many of us think bad judgement was used by coach Tressel. We are very disappointed-- however much of this is unrestrained GLEE by certain people at someones failure and misfortune.
26th President Teddy Roosevelt said a century ago,
"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better."
s/BobP
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Roe Fox added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Gary Sommers's post:
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Quote from Roe Fox's post:
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"Next time I need $250,000 I'll know where to go."
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Next time I am in a multi-year contract currently paying me $3.5 mil/year, not to mention TV and radio deals, a shoe contract, and Lord knows what other associated ancillary income, I will be glad to give it to you.
BTW, is this 'suspension' with or without pay?"
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From a post above:
"So much for the father being 'religious'. Strange way to practice your faith."
Are you a hypocrite or an atheist because your sense of forgiveness and the imperfection of man is either lacking or case-specific?
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Alex Creech's post:
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Quote from Gary Sommers's post:
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Quote from Roe Fox's post:
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Quote from Gary Sommers's post:
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"Casey: I agree with you. I think it's likely Coach Tressel did forward the info to someone else who chose not to disclose. If so...big trouble for Ohio State."
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Hank, what makes that look even more likely is the way Smith jumped in when Tressel was trying to address that Tuesday evening. At that moment he treated Tressel like a 12-year-old."
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So you think he did comply with his contract and NCAA regs but should lose his job? Two games, a public floggin and a quarter mil aren't enough?
Got it."
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No Roe, making verbal statements and signing written statements saying you were unaware of any violations is not exactly complying with your contract or NCAA regulations.
Neither is knowingly playing potentially ineligible players.
Your defense of him and that really lame 'punishment' really surprises me."
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"Neither is knowingly playing potentially ineligible players."
Are you listening to yourself? So all it takes to get players suspended is to have a lawyer (or hell, anyone) email the head coach and say they "may" have players who are breaking NCAA regulations. Man, I'm glad you aren't in charge of anything. Maybe you should move to a country that is more inline with your viewpoints, like Iran or North Korea."
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Except, in this case, the 'tip' was absolutely correct and those five were in the wrong.
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Discussion Topic: My Jim Tressel Situation
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 11, 2011
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Quote from Roe Fox's post:
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Quote from Gary Sommers's post:
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Quote from Roe Fox's post:
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"Next time I need $250,000 I'll know where to go."
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Next time I am in a multi-year contract currently paying me $3.5 mil/year, not to mention TV and radio deals, a shoe contract, and Lord knows what other associated ancillary income, I will be glad to give it to you.
BTW, is this 'suspension' with or without pay?"
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From a post above:
"So much for the father being 'religious'. Strange way to practice your faith."
Are you a hypocrite or an atheist because your sense of forgiveness and the imperfection of man is either lacking or case-specific?"
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According to an earlier post, that boy's "religious" father would have beaten the son. You find anything particular religious in that? It isn't my idea of God's way to handle things.
By the way, you stil find the fine Tressel got to be meaningful to his checkbook?
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