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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

2010 Notre Dame College Wrestling Recruiting Class
125 pounds: Codey Neff - Miami Trace High School (Washington Court House, Ohio)
125 pounds: Davion Caston - Sandusky High School (Sandusky, Ohio)
125 pounds: Matt Perez - London High School (London, Ohio)
125 pounds: Leon Shannon - Theodore Roosevelt High School (Wyandotte, Michigan)
133 pounds: Sheldon Kegley - Graham High School (Saint Paris, Ohio)
133 pounds: Jesse Walker - Northmont High School (Clayton, Ohio)
141 pounds: Kodie Egnor - Elyria High School (Elyria, Ohio)
141 pounds: Chad Penson - Cordova High School (Cordova, Tennessee)
141 pounds: Maurice Miller - William McKinley High School (Canton, Ohio)
141 pounds: Shane Justice - Bellevue High School (Bellevue, Ohio)
141/149 pounds: Louden Gordon - Wadsworth High School (Wadsworth, Ohio)
141/149 pounds: Mike Kovach - Saint Peter L. M. Chanel High School (Bedford, Ohio)
149 pounds: Jerrel Valliant - Sandusky High School (Sandusky, Ohio)
149 pounds: Ken Locsei - South High School (Willoughby, Ohio)
149 pounds: Jake Sage - Fairmont High School (Kettering, Ohio)
149/157 pounds: Zach Noernberg - Cuyahoga Heights High School (Cuyahoga Heights, Ohio)
149/157 pounds: Eric Wolfe - Licking Heights High School (Pataskala, Ohio)
157 pounds: Tony Burge - Mason High School (Mason, Michigan)
157 pounds: Nick LeForce - Carlisle High School (Carlisle, Ohio)
157 pounds: Nico Francis - Girard High School (Girard, Ohio)
157 pounds: Phil Egnor - Elyria High School (Elyria, Ohio)
157 pounds: Anthony Resendez - Clay High School (Oregon, Ohio)
157/165 pounds: Chad Morrison - Parkersburg High School (Parkersburg, West Virginia)
165 pounds: Charles Mason - Princeton High School (Cincinnati, Ohio)
165 pounds: Jonathan Pressler - West High School (Anchorage, Alaska)
165 pounds: Nick Babuscak - Lake Catholic High School (Mentor, Ohio)
174 pounds: Cody Lamberg - Kenmore High School (Akron, Ohio)
184 pounds: Jake Burge - North Idaho College
184/197 pounds: Travis Ostrowski - Chelsea High School (Chelsea, Michigan)
197 pounds: Mike Lanigan - Ohio Dominican University
285 pounds: Brian Blackwell - Olympic Heights High School (Olympic Heights, Florida)
285 pounds: Justin Schafrath - Chippewa High School (Doylestown, Ohio)
285 pounds: Vincenzo Cardone - Central Catholic High School (Toledo, Ohio)
285 pounds: Dan Demick - Chillicothe High School (Chillicothe, Ohio)



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

Hold on a second. That is their recruiting class? Their incoming class? The new guys coming in, to be combined with the returnees? What are many/most of these guys thinking?

I admire guys in any sport who look to take on a challenge, but this might be just a weeeeeeee bit extreme. Reminds me of when one of my older boys was looking at schools for baseball. One had SIX catchers and TWENTY-THREE pitchers. Just not enough available playing time for everyone. And at least in baseball you can substitute during the game.



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Leo Zimmer added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

Uhmmm... I hate to admit this... but I agree with you Gary. Hell may be frozen over ;-)

I did a quick search and found this from last year http://ohiowrestling.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1820&highlight=notre+dame

35 recruites last year, 34 this year... how many of those kids will get frustrated, leave the program and never wrestle again?



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

Gary: As long as NDC is NAIA, the amount of money they choose to spend on scholarships is unlimited. I have no idea how many of these kids are getting some form of ride but money for college can be the ultimate enticement.

Also, NDC is the reigning National Champ in NAIA. That's a strong incentive as well. Some very good programs are sending kids to NDC. Obviously, the coaches of these schools feel it's a good choice.



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Ben Golden added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

I would imagine they have a high turnover rate, too. I can't imagine they have 80+ guys in their wrestling room.



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Jack Muni added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

I saw a video last year during their practice, and it looked plenty crowded then. I don't know how they'll manage so many guys???



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:

"Gary: As long as NDC is NAIA, the amount of money they choose to spend on scholarships is unlimited. I have no idea how many of these kids are getting some form of ride but money for college can be the ultimate enticement.

Also, NDC is the reigning National Champ in NAIA. That's a strong incentive as well. Some very good programs are sending kids to NDC. Obviously, the coaches of these schools feel it's a good choice."



Hank, you know better than to believe that all coaches have the best interests of their athletes in mind. After all, you coached at a school with Bud Longo. :(

Now I understand the allure of a scholarship, but how long will these guys be on scholarship when they aren't wrestling for any number of reasons?



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

Quote from Ben Golden's post:

"I would imagine they have a high turnover rate, too. I can't imagine they have 80+ guys in their wrestling room."



In which case I repeat, what are a lot of these guys thinking? And how is the program selling itself to these kids?



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Ben Golden added to this discussion on July 23, 2010

Let's not let this devolve into a Notre Dame bashing party. I don't know what the coaching staff's model is there, and ultimately it doesn't matter much to me. Sure, it leaves me scratching my head to see so many commits each year, but I really don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I'm sure everyone that goes there realizes they will have some competition for a starting spot.

Ultimately, all I can say for sure is that I'm glad they started a wrestling program and it's awesome to have the best NAIA team in the country here in Ohio.



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on July 24, 2010

Quote from Ben Golden's post:

"Let's not let this devolve into a Notre Dame bashing party. I don't know what the coaching staff's model is there, and ultimately it doesn't matter much to me. Sure, it leaves me scratching my head to see so many commits each year, but I really don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I'm sure everyone that goes there realizes they will have some competition for a starting spot.

Ultimately, all I can say for sure is that I'm glad they started a wrestling program and it's awesome to have the best NAIA team in the country here in Ohio."



I am not bashing the school as much as questioning what these kids are thinking when they decide to go there.



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Josh Lowe added to this discussion on July 24, 2010

They're in the transition process to Divison II, so at some point there are going to be tighter controls in terms of roster and scholarships. I don't know the exact years on the transition process.



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on July 24, 2010

Gary,
I understand your point. It comes down to this: If you are a 145 pound freshman-to-be, would you rather come to NDC and train with national champions Adam Koballa, Jeff Pelton and Thomas Straughn, not to mention Ashtin Primus, and be part of an incoming class that includes Jerrel Valliant, Louden Gordon and Mike Kovach around your weight class... or would you rather go to a place where the competition isn't as elite and possibly be assured of a varsity spot? These incoming freshman obviously chose the first option.



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Discussion Topic: Notre Dame College announces 2010 Recruiting Class
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on July 24, 2010

Josh,
Part of the process of gaining eligibility in NCAA Division 2 is adhering to their scholarship guidelines, etc., thus I'm sure that NDC is already 100% compliant... and still getting an absolute gold mine of talent.



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