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► Add to the Discussion Page 1, 2  Next Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title John Ice added to this discussion on February 21, 2010 http://thenewstribune.com/2010/02/20/1079484/this-mat-classic-really-lives.html        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Mark Niemann added to this discussion on February 21, 2010 Does he help out at 133 or 141? Or even 149? How do Ian Paddock and/or Collin Palmer match up against him? Or even Nikko Triggas or any of the other current Buckeyes? If two of the incoming freshmen start, alog with a red-shirter, we go: 125: Stieber 133: Garcia 141: R/SF Collin Palmer. Not likely, but I only mention it to point out that for the first three weight classes there are 12 high school state titles. Not bad. But - I get it - college is a whole different level. ps: Nice work Garcia!        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Jack Muni added to this discussion on February 21, 2010 Mark, Garcia is at 171. Don't confuse the picture of the 135 lb. champ in the article with Garcia.        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Mark Niemann added to this discussion on February 21, 2010 Hi. I'm an idiot. Does he go 165 or 174? If so, who does he slide in for, beat and/or back up?        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Ben Golden added to this discussion on February 21, 2010 Quote from Mark Niemann's post: "Hi. I'm an idiot. Does he go 165 or 174? If so, who does he slide in for, beat and/or back up?" I think he'll redshirt and then the next year we will see him and Demas at 165 and 174. Im sure someone else could emerge at those weights in the next year and a half, though.        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Pat Costilow added to this discussion on February 21, 2010 I see Garcia as a 165. He was the Fargo champ at 152, IIRC. Demas could go either way- I would hate to see him have the same fate as Johnstone- forced into a higher weight and not be able to fill out enough. Demas is pretty wiry- so he could be like Johnstone, or he could fill out and blow up. You never know- the skinny ones can sometimes blow up in size.        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Ben Golden added to this discussion on February 21, 2010 Quote from Pat Costilow's post: "I see Garcia as a 165. He was the Fargo champ at 152, IIRC. Demas could go either way- I would hate to see him have the same fate as Johnstone- forced into a higher weight and not be able to fill out enough. Demas is pretty wiry- so he could be like Johnstone, or he could fill out and blow up. You never know- the skinny ones can sometimes blow up in size." Demas looks like he is going to do a lot of physical maturing in the next year or two. That's pretty scary considering the physical tools he already has.        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Bob Preusse added to this discussion on February 22, 2010 Derek Garcia a BIG catch, only drawback is the OTC wil continue to recruit him to train in Colorado Springs, he's that good. Answer is Garcia will start next season at 165, Sponseller to 174. Heflin for real, wil be 184. Buckeyes will be down next season, need immediate help--- AND cant take chance Garcia will leave, have to challenge him right away. NO chance of redshirt unless he gets hurt. s/BobP        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on February 22, 2010 Quote from Mark Niemann's post: "Does he help out at 133 or 141? Or even 149? How do Ian Paddock and/or Collin Palmer match up against him? Or even Nikko Triggas or any of the other current Buckeyes? If two of the incoming freshmen start, alog with a red-shirter, we go: 125: Stieber 133: Garcia 141: R/SF Collin Palmer. Not likely, but I only mention it to point out that for the first three weight classes there are 12 high school state titles. Not bad. But - I get it - college is a whole different level. ps: Nice work Garcia!" Great post. I'm not sure I can let you live this one down for a while. How can a guy who is as into the Buckeyes as you are not know who Garcia is? It was a big deal when they signed him. The Garcia signing along with Stieber and Demas is what took the sting off losing Sulzer and Clark. Don't you remember all the talk on this site? Coach Ryan is going to revoke your #1 Fan status.        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Mark Niemann added to this discussion on February 22, 2010 Darn. I saw the picture, saw the caption, went with it. I remember him sitting in a recent magazing on top of a podium somewhere. Looking back, he may have won the 152 or 160 class. Either way, I messed up. I'm hoping that some on this forum will be able to rise above the error. To error is human. To forgive shows you are more mature than some give you credit for and truly aren't as bad as you might think or as bad as others have painted you to be!!!!!!!!!!!!!        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on February 22, 2010 I forgive you for the error, does that make me more mature and less bad then people think I am? Also, does the fact that you're forgiven mean I can't mock you for the error?        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on February 22, 2010 From what Bob says, it sounds like this is one possible lineup for next season: 125: Stieber 133: Triggas (Paddock should redshirt) 141: C. Palmer 149: Jameson 157: Nemec 165: Garcia/Sponseller 174: Sponseller/Garcia/Demas 184: Heflin/Capone 197: Magrum 285: Hiles        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title John Taylor added to this discussion on February 22, 2010 I actually like that line up alot for next year. Hopefully it that is accurate.        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Mark Niemann added to this discussion on February 22, 2010 Quote from Michael Rodriguez's post: "I forgive you for the error, does that make me more mature and less bad then people think I am? Also, does the fact that you're forgiven mean I can't mock you for the error?" That IS the ANGLE I was going for. I have two days with you in the immediate future. The last thing I need you doing, is asking do I think Filandus Boyd and Artem Timchenko will meet in the finals for 130!? Or can is Fayette a lock for top 4 at 145? Yeah... I think I have it coming anyway. In all honesty, I most likely owe you for this.        Discussion Topic: Buckeyes' star recruit, Derek Garcia, wins his fourth state title Bill Watson added to this discussion on February 22, 2010 Quote from Bob Preusse's post: "Derek Garcia a BIG catch, only drawback is the OTC wil continue to recruit him to train in Colorado Springs, he's that good. Answer is Garcia will start next season at 165, Sponseller to 174. Heflin for real, wil be 184. Buckeyes will be down next season, need immediate help--- AND cant take chance Garcia will leave, have to challenge him right away. NO chance of redshirt unless he gets hurt. s/BobP" Bob is he going to be good enough to qualify for nationals as a freshman or possibly more?        ► Add to the Discussion Page 1, 2  Next