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Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2E3rrHMZCw
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
Good match between two b-dass-s of that era. As an aside, you can see how skills have improved since that time. Both wresters were physical and strong but neither was demonstrating the type of technique you see in most state champs today.
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
Great Match- Thanks!!
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
Great bout. This match was the culmination of one of the most brutal brackets in Ohio High school history. Taylor was the defending champion, Joey Collins was Taylor's last loss of his championship season and also beat him in at the Mentor District the week before. Aaron Schetter (a runner-up from the season before) took a strong third in OT over the excellent Gilmore from Rogers. Two future state champions Splete and Corso battled for 5th/6th. Interestingly, Taylor could have wrestled 160 and won the title, having beaten the eventual champ rather easily at Brunzwick earlier that season. That 160-pound champ was Joe Collins' twin brother Marty.
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
140...got it. Just picking the right time to unleash it...given it's brevity.
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
Brother Marty is up...
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
Cruiser/Mike, etc...
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
Fun to watch for sure. Hard nosed wrestling, straight forward; A different sport than college wrestling. Watching these videos remind me why I wanted to be a wrestler.
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
I remeber the match well, real dog fight. I hear that wrestling today has better technique and we would not stand a chance against them. This is were I disagree. I think rex still walks through ohio states room. I know for a fact shawn nelson still works the guys in his room. I see very good technique today, but put toal, or lang against either one of those guys and you would be very supprised at how they would do, those guys had technique but you have to put up with the head banging snaps that make your teeth rattle. It's the attitude at which they competed. they tried to break you and not out finesse you. That is how they are wired. they prefer to knock each other around then out slick each other. It was a different time and it wasn't always nice. The mistake that you guys make is that you mis take the brawling for lack of technique, it ain't pretty, but very effective. All the tech. doesn't help when your just fighting to keep your head up. Right or wrong, there were real tough guys, and they could win at any time, because they are not the type to be denied.
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
And it seems there is a lot of value regarding technique in doing a few things exceptonally well.
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
There is a lot of truth in some of the points you make, but I see things a little differently. The scrapping of which you speak is the common denominator in wrestlers regardless of era. Technique is better nowadays; thanks in part to our generation paying its dues and figuring out how to improve upon what was presented by the old guard. This takes into account changes in rules and technical evolution that is more efficient and effective. Bear in mind that the generation before us went through the same cycle. There was a large focus on head banging and snap downs in the 80s. There is more focus on movement and hand fighting today. A person that has wrestled for the greater part of a lifetime, body willing, understands position better than a newbie and can take advantage of the relative inexperience of a green wrestler.
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
Clarification to my last post...
Discussion Topic: Video: 1988 D1 Final at 152, Robert Taylor (Southview) v. Joey Collins (St. Ignatius)
Quote from Bill Splete's post:
"I remeber the match well, real dog fight. I hear that wrestling today has better technique and we would not stand a chance against them. This is were I disagree. I think rex still walks through ohio states room. I know for a fact shawn nelson still works the guys in his room. I see very good technique today, but put toal, or lang against either one of those guys and you would be very supprised at how they would do, those guys had technique but you have to put up with the head banging snaps that make your teeth rattle. It's the attitude at which they competed. they tried to break you and not out finesse you. That is how they are wired. they prefer to knock each other around then out slick each other. It was a different time and it wasn't always nice. The mistake that you guys make is that you mis take the brawling for lack of technique, it ain't pretty, but very effective. All the tech. doesn't help when your just fighting to keep your head up. Right or wrong, there were real tough guys, and they could win at any time, because they are not the type to be denied."
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