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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Greg Debbe added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Herbert is in the finals for 1st place at the World Championships. Pretty impressive.

Dlagnev made it to the semis before he lost so he still has a chance at 3rd.



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

wow, i know Drew Pariano must be having heart attack, he is over there in Denmark---- have some Danish pastry on me Drew !

trivia question who did Jake Herbert face in the 171 IRONMAN finals about 6 years ago ?

how is Harry Lester doing or hasnt Greco started yet ?



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Greg Debbe added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Greco hasn't started yet. Lester will not wrestle until Sunday.

All others in FS are out without placing except for Schlatter. He doesn't wrestle until tomorrow.



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Quote from Bob Preusse's post:

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trivia question who did Jake Herbert face in the 171 IRONMAN finals about 6 years ago ?"



Was that the year he beat Joe Dennis? What was more suprising was who he lost to at Senior Nationals later that year.



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

yep he beat Joe Dennis-- i just watched Jake Herbert lose 1-0, 1-0 in the finals, the last period on "the clinch", reminded why i hate freestyle.

did Herbert lose to the central ohio kid at Sr Nationals, Hackett ??



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Scott Nicola added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Dlagnev takes bronze!



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Herbert and Dlagnev are very impressive. I was hoping Bunch would have a better tourney but he got caught and that was it. Good luck tomorrow to Dustin. Go get em Harry Lester.



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Joe Boardwine added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Herbert got beat by Jason Hackett in the finals at senior nationals - '03, I think.

coach Kyle Bentley must have had Hackett ready for that one



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

yes Hackett won it , he was no fluke in this tourn.

Great semis as i recall a wt up at 189, 2 NCAA finalists --- the PA kid Phil Davis was one, he should have beat the Michigan kid who had never lost. Bergman beat Weitzel from PA then lost to Michigan whose name escapes me, but Michigan guy was for real, went to MN, never quite lived up to it all.

those were the days NHSCA Seniors ruled, but alas no more. .



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Roger Kish...very good in college but was hurt his senior season.



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Bill Splete added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

I just watched herbert's finals match get's him to the third and he is a world champ. What kind of drug test is given at the worlds. Herbert is a freak but the guy he wrestled could scratch his ears with his traps. Very strong, and not natural. Herbert moved well and had the first, great movement and desire. I like the attitude at the end, he can appreciate the second when he retires but the hunger is to be number one. He has made great strides from his redshirt year, he is the future of 84



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

If I remember correctly, four big names were in the semifinals at 189: #1 Roger Kish from Michigan, Phil Davis from Pennsylvania, Joe Williams from California and of course J.D. Bergman from Ohio.

Kish won an awesome match versus Davis after which there was a lot of buzz saying that Davis might have had a winning takedown. Bergman beat Williams in the opposite half with a 0-0 final score by staying on top for the whole thirty-second tiebreaker. Kish controlled the final against Bergman en route to the title. Williams went on to place third and Davis fourth.

All four went to Big Ten schools: Kish to Minnesota where he was a two-time All-American (2nd, 2nd), Bergman went to Ohio State where he was a three-time All-American (2nd, 3rd, 4th), Williams went to Michigan State where he was a multiple-time national qualifier, Davis went to Penn State where he won a national championship and was a four-time All-American (1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th).



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Does anyone else take issue with a tourney of this size and importance being basically a "follow-your-man" format?



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Josh Lowe added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

Weitzel was at 171 that year. Hackett beat both of them to get that title.

Mike:

Int'l is follow-the-leader b/c they want things done in one day. Also blind draw. They don't care about placements -- just get the champ and be done.



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Discussion Topic: Herbert In Finals at World Championships
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on September 22, 2009

I get that, but if you're going to place three (Gold, Silver, Bronze) then I don't understand why you just wouldn't go double elimination and get a true third. Just like in the old days with the OHSAA State tourney, many, many wrestlers were denied a chance to go through the conso bracket when lesser wrestlers (who lost to the right guy) were given a second chance. I just doesn't make sense to me.



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